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Yeah, I definitely don't think this one's a caesar. I'm gonna just wait until 9 comes out to see if that word looks anything remotely close to the letter order of "gangadiddle" and do what I did with Truth. Until then... I dunno. But good work guys! And thank you, Paperwulf. .w. Like you said, the first 9 digits are very likely just... hm. I'm thinking either a 9 letter word, or 2 words split up. Since usually the first word in the sequence, all its letters are counted in ascending numerical order. World was 12345. Then it just goes into the regular code, following the rest of the key, which seems to be random.. Wish I could explain more clearly. It's 6 AM and I'm tired. : P I'll try again later.

EDIT: Also, thats just part [6]. Maybe you cant bracket in tags.

1 2 3 4 5 | 6 7 8 9 8 4 10 | 4 8 11 7 3 12 | 5 6 9 13 10 2 1 | 6 11 7 8 12 1 13 12 | 1 8 5 8 9 8 14 11 | 8 15 12 6 | x | x | 6 13 13 9 8 11 6 4 12 | 12 17 12 1 4 18 6  | 9 6 1 16 18 8 14 5

What we've got. ^

Last edited by jalebi (2010-03-17 5:20 AM)

I think HM refers to this as "x mission", because on the /x/ thread yesterday, he wrote that 1 and 12 would be all the help given in that "x mission thread"... Not sure yet what x means.

Hey everyone, I just got back from Maymont. Here's what I found:

1
THALHIMER - VIRGINIA
WILDLIFE EXHIBIT
DEDICATED NOV. 2, 1958
IN HONOR OF
WILLIAM B. THALHIMER, SR.
CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD,
THALHIMER FOUNDATION
WHOSE CIVIC INTERST,
LOVE OF NATURE, AND GENEROSITY
INITIATED THIS EXHIBIT OF
VIRGINIA WILDLIFE FOR THE
RECREATION AND EDUCATION OF
THE YOUTH AND ADULTS
OF OUR CITY AND STATE.

2
THE GROTTO
2008 RESTORATION
FUNDED BY
THE 1772 FOUNDATION

3
BETSY ADAMS THOMPSON
PERGOLA
DEDICATED JUNE 13, 1985

4
IN CELEBRATION OF
THE MAYMONT BEARS
WILLIAM H. TURNER, SCULPTOR
GIFT OF
MR. AND MRS. CHARLES G. THALHIMER
JUNE 17, 2006

5
ALINE RAYMAKER
IN LOVING MEMORY
1936 - 2003

6
IN MEMORY OF PATRICIA SEAY INGE
11/11/61 - 4/11/01 FOREVER LOVED
STEPHEN, TORI, HAILEY

Edit: Of course, the proper order is 1,4,2,5,3,6 if we've interpreted the whole lima vulcans thing correctly.

Edit 2: Okay, I'm gonna have to let the expert codebreakers work on this one. I've been instructed I must go out drinking tonight. I hope I've recuperated enough! LOL. Happy St. Patty's day!

Last edited by paperwulf (2010-03-17 6:33 PM)

1 2 3 4 5 | 6 7 8 9 8 4 10 | 4 8 11 7 3 12 | 5 6 9 13 10 2 1 | 6 11 7 8 12 1 13 12 | 1 8 5 8 9 8 14 11 | 8 15 12 6 | 14 13 8 1 4 8 9 9 6 | 3 6 15 8 2 9 2 16 10 | 6 13 13 9 8 11 6 4 12 | 12 17 12 1 4 18 6  | 9 6 1 16 18 8 14 5

Guys, this is the sequence, completed. Dolst's twitter reads: "Left ate write? Won for. Won free. Ate! Won! For! Ate!! Nein! Nein! Sicks."
[8] 14 13 8 1 4 8 9 9 6
That was our last piece.

EDIT: Dolst has another new tweet. Unsure of it's relation. Still haven't seen the video, but anyway, the tweet says "1UP".
Umm.. also just watched the video. Has anyone else noticed that Gangadiddle seems to be talking about his OWN unbinding? Is it possible that these twelve parts are not for unbinding the Hunt Master, but perhaps for unbinding the Gangadiddle? Idk. ._. He says "the final pieces of the unbinding are coming together", and uh, they certainly have come together. But why is he happy about that?

Last edited by jalebi (2010-03-17 7:20 PM)

Scouren wrote:

I don't get the point of this thread anymore.

a bunch of new people discussing an arg or something.

Went over the entirety. "Gangadiddle" is impossible as part of the cipher, as the correct sequence isn't found. Like, it'd read (for example, if we started with 1) 1 2 3 1 2 4 5 4 4 6 7, and no numbers sequence in that way. "Dolst" would be impossible to find out because none of the letters repeat, and unlike Gangadiddle, there'd be no way to find a definitive pattern. However, we CAN do this for "Hunt Master" - which would look like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 4 8 9. Not an easy pattern to spot, but its something. T is the only letter that repeats itself.

Tried tackling The Lock in kr-not-kk with Hunter's approach for the last puzzle. Pastebin numbers every line, so I ordered the plaque inscriptions and then linebreaked after every letter. I got this: http://pastebin.com/3WS9xRQh Problem is, it doesn't translate.
319 227 12 15 7 446 1 463 [ 89 299 93 327 396 211 477 135 ] 6 17 67 268 . 141 458 252
R   H   R  N  M S   T  E  [ H  U   A  H   D   N   1   V   ] I  A  T  A   . T   G   A
Something I'm missing. I dunno.

looking at the new ganga video.

1UP with a big arrow pointing up.
Up on a compass is North, or N.
1UP = N.
1 = N?

i shared this with jalebi and she came up with the idea that if 1 is N, then the first four letters might be NAME. in which case we have this:

[1] N A M E 5
[2] 6 7 8 9 8 E 10
[3] E 8 11 7 M 12
[4] 5 6 9 13 10 A N
[5] 6 11 7 8 12 N 13 12
[6] N 8 5 8 9 8 14 11
[7] 8 15 12 6
[8] 14 13 8 N 4 8 9 9 6
[9] M 6 15 8 A 9 A 16 10
[10] 6 13 13 9 8 11 6 E 12
[11] 12 17 12 N E 18 6 9
[12] 9 6 N 16 18 8 14 5

or:

N A M E 5 6 7 8 9 8 E 10 E 8 11 7 M 12 5 6 9 13 10 A N 6 11 7 8 12 N 13 12 N 8 5 8 9 8 14 11 8 15 12 6 14 13 8 N 4 8 9 9 6 3 6 15 8 A 9 A 16 10 6 13 13 9 8 11 6 E 12 12 17 12 N E 18 6 9 9 6 N 16 18 8 14 5

OH WOW NEVERMIND WHAT I HAD HERE

Last edited by jamonthelam (2010-03-17 9:15 PM)

oh good god is this still going on

mariodude89 wrote:

no seriously where did all of you come from?

Mainly from here I think: http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh

Eebster wrote:

Tried to solve it here: http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/cryptogram-solver.php but it didn't help. There is a very good chance the word "Gangadiddle," "dolst," or a place name appears in there if it is indeed a cryptogram.

"Also, only words that are found in my dictionary will be found. If there are proper names or misspellings, it may cause the puzzle to be unsolved."

Cool site though, will probably come in handy sooner or later on the hunt...


Jam, NAME(s) looks promising...

--RESULTS [with 5 letters known]--

n a m e s
_ _ _ _ _ e _
e _ _ _ m _
s _ _ _ _ a n
_ _ _ _ _ n _ _
n _ s _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _
_ _ _ n e _ _ _ _
m _ _ _ a _ a _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ e _
_ _ _ n e _ _ _
_ _ n _ _ _ _ s
-----------

Last edited by carbon (2010-03-17 9:39 PM)

Read my post about the puzzle. The only way I got Truth was by finding a pattern for a word I was specifically looking for. To figure this out we need to find a pattern that corresponds to a word. If N = 1, then 123456789 could be a 9 letter word where none of the letters are the same. Additionally, it could be any OTHER number of letters, too, if we are to assume that it is 2 words, or even three, as Truth started with 1234567, but spelled out "worldpe" when arranged in the key. This is why I say 1234 may be "name" - no letters are the same, and n=1. But we just don't know. This is why I'm thinking it may perhaps be much simpler to look for a pattern in the numbers the way we've done it previously.
Although Carbon was wise to look for letter frequency, I don't know if it will help us with a puzzle like this, where we just don't know what words are being used -  therefore, we won't know if statistically frequent letters will match up. For example - if 1234 really is name, that would mean 4 is e. But let's not rule it out just yet.

EDIT: Finally figured out the sequence of numbers on the DFE entry for Isolated Media Group. Again trying hunter1's approach and using pastebin, I came up with:
14 17 7 252 253 208 205 206 116 126 77 69 70 121 55 73 11 = travelisnecessary. Travel is necessary.
Doesn't help us now obviously, but at least we know this is probably the approach we need to take for The Lock... the problem is simply decoding it, even with the help of pastebin.

Last edited by jalebi (2010-03-17 10:49 PM)

Eebster wrote:

That was my point.

Ah, cool man. I obviously misunderstood you.
I'm not solving it as a cryptogram - I've done a letter frequency analysis. Because if the majority of the words are English, proper nouns or not they should still conform to the histogram.
Still, I was only doing it because I didn't know what was on the plaques. I'm sure it will be a lot quicker to actually solve the puzzle.

Eebster wrote:

Does anybody know good techniques for solving these things? I know they exist. I mean, you frequently see puzzles in magazines and stuff that are just cryptograms with some known theme (here, a name) and usually one letter as a clue (1 = N). So somebody with a pencil and paper with a little experience should in principle be able to figure this out without too much difficulty.

One technique is frequency analysis, another is finding double letters (English is relatively restrictive with repeated letters)... I only found four:

[8] 1 4 1 3 8 1 4 8 9 9 6

[10] 6 13 13 9 8 11 6 4 12
[11] 12 17 12 1 4 18 6 9 
[12] 9 6 1 16 18 8 14 5 

These are likely to be: EE LL TT SS OO DD for example. It's unlikely that 9 or 13 are Z and impossible for them to be Q - but they could also potentially be the end and start of a word.

see more:
http://books.google.com/books?id=CyCcRA … mp;f=false

Last edited by carbon (2010-03-18 2:52 AM)