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#576 2010-06-16 7:29 PM

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Eebster wrote:

storme wrote:

Who is the person doing the gangadiddle twitter posts? Is it Nathan Israel?

Yes, and he also maintains the gangadiddle Youtube channel.

New post says he found a way around the speech binding.

I just saw this, and I expect more messages soon.


Also, a new person named DY posted a message on the Michael Filters Gabriel blog a couple days ago. I'm not sure what to make of him.

Be careful of this DY guy. He might be a piggy-backing off the ARG to make it seem like he's a character when he's not, kinda like Feeler in the NEXUS project ARG.

DY wrote:

I have been spreading the word. For the same reason as dolst, I cannot participate. The binding excludes me from the Hunt.
However, those who seek missed me with their speech binding, and so long as Iím careful, I might be able to help.

Untill Nathan announces that this kid is a actually part of the hunt, then I won't believe this kid named "DY". New tweet from Nathan:

Nathan Israel wrote:

have found way around speech binding. they no doubt already know.

Nathan knows a way around speech binding. This is great =D. But the s33k3rs know too, so this may not be good.

Also, dolst has made a new tweet about his new videos. They might have some stuff to help us with the hunt, so I'll watch them.

E: One of dolst's new video's talk about the hunt

It's alot of videos, but I'll keep checking.

E2:

Nothing real special here except dolst meations that he got a new HD camera from dolst Family Entertainment.


EDIT: DY is real.

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#577 2010-06-17 6:14 PM

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Chaosky here, finally decided to start posting here directly. For those who don't know me, I'm the (big) science guy over at the TDRL/TRL.

Anyway, I'll start off with a question I noticed a while back by Storme: "The picture in the video is the red one, I'm not sure what it's called.
If you pause at 1:53, you can see things written on the steps. It's hard to make out but I think the second one says "love".  The other two look like they start with "c". Tell me if you guys see it too, I'm starting to think that I'm seeing things that aren't there."

Anyway, yes there's writing there, and I can only make out "love." Also, it seems like I recognize some of the places in the video. Maybe they are in an area used in a Gangatamer video?
Just a thought. And before anyone mentions it, I know that part with the picture of the wooden pegs is from one of the videos.


(Logical analysis ahead.)
--------------------------------------------------------

Moving on, I'm going to add an extra spoonful of "reality" to my cup of "alternate."
_________

The case that the s33k3rs and Dolst are one and the same:
Observation: The voice in "Israel is Wrong" sounds a lot like Dolst's, and the style of message is similar.

Case that they are a different group than Dolst and friends:
Observation: Is it just me, or does the "G" sketch look more badly drawn?
_________

Anyway, they're probably an official part of the game but sometimes it helps to put things back into perspective. Seeing as they're probably "in game" it may be easier for us to plot out their actions. Since we know how Dolst normally does things, plotting out his actions will probably be easier. 
Ironically enough, it's a bit like using reality to cheat.

However, we do know that there are at least two people working on the ARG: Dolst and (the only name we have) Nathan. There are probably other friends of Dolst working on this as well. In fact, we don't even know if Dolst is the mastermind behind this.

This means that even mild regularity is unlikely, and logical analysis could very well be useless. Nonetheless, figuring out their patterns could help with upcoming puzzles. We might be able to find out who they are from Dolst's other videos...

------------------------------------------------------------------
(L.A. ends here)


Anyway, moving on to something I saw about smile.jpg, posted by... Storme again. Seriously, the thing looks like it got raped by an evil clown... and then attacked by zombies... and then got into said evil clown's makeup.  (at approximately 1:25 in the video)

Anyway, this is the first I've heard of it, so I'm going to come back and edit this when I've learned more.



EDIT: Well, as the most well known story said, there is a great lack of information. Of course, as Tinman said, the s33k3rs might be attempting to scare us off, or tell us we know almost nothing. (Nice deduction, by the way.) That or it's really just to add to the creepy factor.


Well, I think I covered everything pretty well.

EDIT x 2: As Eebster said, it could just be because it looks like their smiley picture... of creepiness.

Or perhaps this gives us a clue as to what THAT picture means...



...I think Element#50man had the right idea with the "we know nothing" message.

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#578 2010-06-20 9:45 AM

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New... video from Gangy. D:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8DD7E9b … eature=sub
Looks like he deleted all his videos as well
Latest tweets:
...
about 10 hours ago via web
=-SILENCED-=
about 10 hours ago via web
-=SILENCED=-
about 11 hours ago via web
==SILENCED==
about 11 hours ago via web
names
about 11 hours ago via web
am trying to
about 11 hours ago via web
--SILENCED--
about 11 hours ago via web
power, like most things, is with their names. learn their names, just as you freed me. learn their names to stop them.
about 11 hours ago via web
will not be me who stops them. know that. will be you.
7:27 AM Jun 19th via web
have found way around speech binding. they no doubt already know.
3:29 PM Jun 15th via web
g is not a. that israel is not me. new hunters carefully review work of those who came before. understanding will help with the hunt.

From the text used in the video, it seems s33k3rs got Nathan, fff. D:

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#579 2010-06-20 1:01 PM

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Oh shit. Looks like we won't be hearing from Nathan anytime soon. Dolst has not been affected yet, and he did speak to Nathan recently, but it appears he is still unable to help us. David Yamaguchi is probably a gamejacker.

That leaves us on our own. We have to find out the Seekers' names, which I imagine we will accomplish in similar manner to finding Nathan's name: through a series of puzzles. But no hints this time.

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#580 2010-06-20 4:54 PM

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This can't be good. So Nathan has been silenced but Dolst is still blabbing about his anime convention. And who is David Yamaguchi? He's only posted on http://michaelfiltersgabriel.wordpress.com and he hasn't said much. Yeah, I'm thinking gamejacker too, but you never know.
I guess we'll be presented with puzzles soon to figure out the s33k3rs' names. I wonder how many there are? Their plural name implies there are at least 2, but there may be a million of them for all we know. Then again, if there's like 10 of them, that won't be too long of a quest, right? lol
I hope Nathan's okay. I hope Dolst doesn't get eaten after all this, either.

Edit:

I just thought of something. Remember how Dolst was saying that he started the company with another guy who was a Japanese-American? DY's name sounds Japanese-American, and he says he's an animator......... I wonder.............
Of course, if it's a gamejacker, he likely knows what we do and is just lending credibility to it. Still too early to be sure I guess.

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#581 2010-06-20 7:31 PM

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DOubt it'll be useful but I've got the /x/ link that started the Gangadiddle thing; Wasn't able to find anything to do with the Japanese guy/Dolst/s33k3rs anywhere in there, but let's not ignore it. If we found Nathan's name ther I'm sure there's a chance other names can be there too.
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#582 2010-06-21 7:08 PM

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HAPokey wrote:

... /x/ link that started the Gangadiddle thing...

I liken it to the relationship of The Hobbit to The Lord of the Rings.
The first was a standalone story, whereas the epic tale following it is a massive expansion. The Gangadiddle saga is built upon that universe, but I don't know if that started this. Then again, some of the Hunt sites have been around since May of 2009 and that was posted in September so who knows, there might be a detail in there that helps us later.

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#583 2010-06-21 8:33 PM

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DOlst's having memory problems now.
He's sounding a lot like J now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxPOKdOtNi8

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#584 2010-06-21 9:01 PM

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Our friend David over at Michael Filters Gabriel - I don't think he's piggybacking. I'm familiarizing myself with everything that's happened since I left, trying to bring myself up to speed (hey everyone!) and I keep seeing references to "parts". The goal here, right now, is to get the names of the s33k3rs, it appears. Am I correct?

Anyway, the reason I come to that conclusion is that Dolst has mentioned "parts", as has this guy David. He has given us the clue that there are 5 parts.
Part 1, as given by DY: 1
Part 2, as given by dolst: 26
Part 3, as given by dolst: 9

Parts 4-5, I can't seem to find. We'll probably have them before long. If this is a code similar to the one for Nathan's name, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that each number corresponds with a letter... Its just a matter of deciphering the key.

Other than that, I can only direct peoples attention to the s33k3rs twitter:
dolst will forget everything about the "hunt", Israel, and the Gangadiddle. Any attempts to jog his memory will only hurt him.

Only two hours earlier he seemed to know about the hunt, posting a tweet about part 2, but within that time I suppose they made their move. After that it looks like Nathan tried to tell us something, and couldn't. But I bet we'll have this soon.

In any event, good to see you all again! And hello to those I don't know. : )

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#585 2010-06-21 9:19 PM

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#586 2010-06-21 9:37 PM

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I think if David is not lying, we have four parts.

Part one: 1 (found here: http://michaelfiltersgabriel.wordpress. … /#comments)
Part two: 26 (found here: http://twitter.com/dolst)
Part three: 9 (found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxPOKdOtNi8)
Part four: ???
Part five: 22 (found here: http://twitter.com/gangadiddle)

I am assuming 22 is part five and not four because Nathan tweeted "SivLENCED" just before "SIL22CED". The "iv" part looks like part of "five."

Additionally, check out the Seekers' latest tweet here: http://twitter.com/s33k3rs.

The Seekers wrote:

dolst will forget everything about the "hunt", Israel, and the Gangadiddle. Any attempts to jog his memory will only hurt him.

That worries me a bit, because I posted a question on his latest video trying to jog his memory. But I am not inclined to believe the Seekers and won't remove the comment. We have to find part four.


While we are looking, we can try to decode the numbers. The first place to look is a simple substitution cipher with A=1, B=2, etc. That gives A Z I _ V. That seems unlikely for a name (or anything else for that matter), so I highly doubt it is that easy. However, I have no idea how else to solve it with just four numbers.

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#587 2010-06-21 9:42 PM

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or iv could be roman numerals for 4.

IV...


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#588 2010-06-21 9:53 PM

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1 26 9 22 x.
With x being the missing part.

iv has gotta be 4. I think RainRain is right, only 'cause it seems as though these've been chronological so far. AZIVx still doesn't make much sense, so perhaps there's something we're missing.

EDIT: Additionally, I have a transcript of the s33k3r's second video - the one that aimed to provide clarity. http://pastebin.com/5PAusMAx

In case anyone needed it, anyway... It appears that they've been sabotaging us from the get-go, then. They've explained their method of hunting and how they've manifested in our world, but still no clear reason (other than salvation) for their opposition towards us.

I don't see how their transcendence factors into our hunt, as it sounds like they're looking for something different - unless Gangadiddle isn't Gangadiddle's true/only name, and the inaudible word in the video was sort of like another name for Gangy. Since the Gangadiddle is what we are looking for, and they want to get it before we do, I'm gonna have to assume that theory for now. Thoughts on these bros?

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#589 2010-06-22 5:34 AM

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Hmm, you are probably right. Roman Numerals makes much more sense.

But AZIV_, while possibly part of a name, is not especially promising. The only complete name like that that makes any sense would be Azive, but that is a very strange name.

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#590 2010-06-22 9:25 AM

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Well...  I'm just letting you all know, for reference, I am reuploading several Gangadiddle videos and a dolst one to some old account someone gave me.  http://www.youtube.com/user/korryisback
I am missing several videos, because I haven't been able to participate in the ARG as much lately...


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#591 2010-06-22 1:28 PM

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jalebi wrote:

http://pastebin.com/5PAusMAx
...it sounds like they're looking for something different - unless Gangadiddle isn't Gangadiddle's true/only name, and the inaudible word in the video was sort of like another name for Gangy...

I had to listen to that again and again. It sounded like "gong-gada-da" or something. Also, welcome back!

Edit: Just had a thought. It has the same number of sylables. Could it be just another pronunciation of "gangadiddle" like "gan-GA-didd'l" with the last part kinda swallowed? I dunno, but now that I thought of that, that's what it sounds like to me!
Come to think of it, besides Dolst himself, who else have we actually heard pronounce the name? See if you can follow my convoluted logic here:

We first learn of the Gangadiddle through the videos where the name is spelled out. We assume (or at least I did) that it's pronounced "GANG-ga-DIDdle". And when Dolst mentions it (or puppet Dolst if I remember correctly) he pronounces it that way, so we just go with it. After all, that's how it's spelled. And I don't remember now (and apparently neither does he!) if he even said the word when he was possessed, let alone how he pronounced it if he did.

So now we have the s33k3rs come along and they pronounce it like some Klingon word, "Gon GA did'l". Maybe that's the right way to pronounce it... assuming there is a right way. Food for thought anyway.

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#592 2010-06-22 3:55 PM

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Thats gotta be it - me and jamonthelam just listened to it trying to hear for what you're hearing, and thats it. I'm just confused because I'm pretty sure that there are older videos in which Dolst talks about Gangadiddle and pronounces it the way we're thinking its pronounced - GANGadiddle.

Aaaand after sifting through the older ones it appears as though every Gangy-related video was taken from his account, bbbuuuuuttttt Mournblade's account has one up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PquzbgGPHbk It's in here. Thanks for that, btw, Mournblade! Very helpful. : D

Also, part 5 was posted by DY! : ) So the current lineup is as follows: 1 26 9 22 16 Sooo AZIVP. Something tells me this is not the S33k3rs name, so... hm. Might be more to it. We'll keep watch.

EDIT:
Proof(?) that David's real!
"@jalebi Yeah, there is one I can think of. The guy "I" knew who runs Akanishin Studio. His name is David. Of course, that memory is from the puppet version of me, so it's not as clear as it would be had I known him in this world.
I'm not sure if that guy was a puppet or a real person though. Time will tell. Surf Wisely."

That was posted a while ago. Shoulda seen it coming : P

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#593 2010-06-22 3:56 PM

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paperwulf wrote:

jalebi wrote:

http://pastebin.com/5PAusMAx
...it sounds like they're looking for something different - unless Gangadiddle isn't Gangadiddle's true/only name, and the inaudible word in the video was sort of like another name for Gangy...

I had to listen to that again and again. It sounded like "gong-gada-da" or something. Also, welcome back!

Edit: Just had a thought. It has the same number of sylables. Could it be just another pronunciation of "gangadiddle" like "gan-GA-didd'l" with the last part kinda swallowed? I dunno, but now that I thought of that, that's what it sounds like to me!
Come to think of it, besides Dolst himself, who else have we actually heard pronounce the name? See if you can follow my convoluted logic here:

We first learn of the Gangadiddle through the videos where the name is spelled out. We assume (or at least I did) that it's pronounced "GANG-ga-DIDdle". And when Dolst mentions it (or puppet Dolst if I remember correctly) he pronounces it that way, so we just go with it. After all, that's how it's spelled. And I don't remember now (and apparently neither does he!) if he even said the word when he was possessed, let alone how he pronounced it if he did.

So now we have the s33k3rs come along and they pronounce it like some Klingon word, "Gon GA did'l". Maybe that's the right way to pronounce it... assuming there is a right way. Food for thought anyway.

Hmm... actually, don't you remember DOlst's videos before they were taken down by the puppet Dolst way back when when this arg was new to us? When Dolst was mentioning getting copyrights in order or something over Dolst family entertainment, he calls the gangadiddle the "Gangatron" (He was saying how he did not know what it was from all the PMs he was getting about it) However it might have been just a mistake.
Anyway, contributing to said food.

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#594 2010-06-22 5:31 PM

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Yeah, I remember Dolst saying "GANG-gadiddle" but here's my logic: Have we ever heard Nathan say it? We rarely if ever hear his voice. The only exception I can think is "You can't hide from the truth" in one of the P&P vids. Don't know if that was him though.
Anyway, I want to say I remember Dolst saying something about Nathan not talking but communicating some other way. Either telepathically or written word or whatever, but if Dolst only saw the word written, maybe he would assume like everyone else in the world that it was pronounced just like we've been saying it.
If the s33k3rs know something we don't, then maybe they know its proper pronunciation. More cogitational tidbits. :-)

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#595 2010-06-22 7:09 PM

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Eebster wrote:

Hmm, you are probably right. Roman Numerals makes much more sense.

But AZIV_, while possibly part of a name, is not especially promising. The only complete name like that that makes any sense would be Azive, but that is a very strange name.

That also reminds me of the post Nathan made on twitter that said "G not A". Also, Jalebi found the whole thing and it's AZIVP. So if we replace the A in AZIVP to a G, it'll be GZIVP. However, I am not sure of this.

dolst made a reply to my comment on his youtube channel.

dolst wrote:

I WAnt to comment aobut your commens but amnhy head reallyrea lly hurts when i lookat think bout it wtf is this hunt thing?!!!

Oh my god, he is typing like a average Roblox player he is losing it. He is typing bad and looks as if he was in pain when he typed it and he was forgetting that he typed the word he was trying to say so he retyped it (I referring to "reallyrea lly"). And the s33k3rs reacted when I posted a message to them on dolst's youtube channel. This is really interesting.

s33k3rs wrote:

Forget. The "hunt" means nothing to you. You are not a part of you and it only causes you pain.
FORGET!

I just made up a theory when I saw this: The s33k3rs don't have complete control over his memory. The s33k3rs may use "spells" as you call it to make dolst lose his memory. It causes him pain when the s33k3rs find out about him learning about the hunt.

Also, the s33k3rs must've been in a hurry to write that because they made a mistake when they typed it (Notice the "You are not a part of you").


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#596 2010-06-22 7:34 PM

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I think for now we should hang back trying to jog Dolst's memory. I mean, they warned us for a reason. Focusing on it would be a mistake - right now our goal is deciphering s33k3r's name.

As for "g is not a", I believe that is a reference to the misconception that the Gangadiddle is also Anhoaboeacna. I noticed some people thought the s33k3rs were related to Anhoaboeacna... I think it was just an attempt to clear up an association between those groups. s33k3rs are looking for the Gangadiddle, and know OF Anhoaboeacna but are not affiliated with it.

Using the reverse number-letter association (a=26, b=25 rather than a=1, b=2), the code spells Zarek. A little more comprehensible than Azivp. Still, I can't think of any clues dropped thus far that might point us in the direction of the names of the seekers - i.e., how to interpret this code.

EDIT:
Dolst.com was updated. There's a caption beneath Poochee and Pansy:
"nd Pansy book would have an ISBN number of 0316157309 but that already exists for a book written in 19"

The book in question is "The Mysterious Zetabet". Plot has a lot of "z" names - could Zarek be correct? Also, the book was written in 1979, if that has any importance.. Still speculating on this part.

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#597 2010-06-22 8:31 PM

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Okay, an update I think. Jalebi, I think you have the right idea. And that Zetabet thing cinches it, in my mind. I remember that book from when I was a kid (a bit later than 1979 though!) and it was about a kid who got lost in a magical land where the alphabet was backwards! I wish I'd seen that sooner! LOL

Oh, and I hope I didn't do a bad thing here, but I went ahead and asked the s33k3rs about Zarek. Just kinda posted it there in their channel comments. I  hope that was the right thing to do. (That was how we freed Dolst from the gangadiddle awhile back.)

Let's see what happens! >:3

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#598 2010-06-22 8:40 PM

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Absolutely the right thing to do! Oh, awesome. I'm so glad we got it, then! Great job, guys. And now, we wait. >:3 The s33k3rs are, quite frankly, effed. The book seems rather interesting though. I wish I'd known that before when I was messing with the code! xP


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#599 2010-06-22 9:16 PM

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HELLO!!!! Looky what we did!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G10k0TmXHq4

Honestly though, jalebi, did you have to taunt them like that? Oh, what am I saying, of COURSE you did!! LOL

Our shieldcrafter has fallen. It appears we have underestimated Israel, dolst, and the third.
Israel and dolst are still bound. When we find the third, he will receive special treatment. As for you "hunters", consider yourselves extraordinarily lucky that the binding of the "hunt" protects you.
When we unleash the Gangadiddle's power, it will be especially hard for you.

Okay, so I have no idea what a "shieldcrafter" is unless it's literally one who crafts shields, so I'm guessing he was protecting the s33k3rs somehow. And now.... what, they don't have a shield? They also mention "the third". It's a foregone conclusion that they mean DY. For some reason they don't seem able to find him. Must be why he's only posting on mfg.

And of course, the idle threats about how bad it's going to be for us when they find the Gangadiddle and blah blah blah! If I didn't know better, I'd say suddenly we've got them on the run. Looks like the Gangadiddle's not the only thing we're hunting! LOL

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#600 2010-06-22 9:25 PM

jalebi
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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

I really did. ): I think you're right about DY being the third, and their shieldcrafter is probably the one called Zarek. I think they're scared. >:D I'm assuming Zarek is one of multiple, then - I'm hoping we have to find more names. I do love these.

As for the video itself... Interpretations? It's QUITE grainy, and all I can make out at the beginning is a doorknob (assuming it is attached to a door). Then they get mad and yell at us, then.. "This is not a [?]." What are they saying there? ): My hearing really is terrible.


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