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#801 2010-09-23 1:35 PM

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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

Thanks jam, my broski.


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#802 2010-09-23 4:41 PM

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toma, I have the odd feeling the Gangadiddle will be unhappy to see you. keep away from whatever it is until you can contain it.
I feel a s33k3r will be there too, digging for it. when you succeed, take a picture of the beasts skull and post it here, I have waited for the
beast to be slain for oh so long.

be careful out there, fellow hunter.

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#803 2010-09-23 7:40 PM

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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

I'm in VA now. Just got into the hotel. Too dark to do anything now. Will head out tomorrow.

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#804 2010-09-23 8:25 PM

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tomatogoatee wrote:

I'm in VA now. Just got into the hotel. Too dark to do anything now. Will head out tomorrow.

good luck


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#805 2010-09-23 10:20 PM

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Jam the man! If we can't have the genius girl, I'll be happy with the genius boy!! :-) Fire up those neurons and put on the thinking cap. I bet we'll have some cracking to do tomorrow!

Also, as a reminder, here's the codes for this latest clue:

The Combination:
79 1 28 83 144
72 43
63 45 148 197
108 98 101 178 57 217 161
90 13
21 155 175 187 105 124 125
27 107 59 118 180 131 117 225
42 58 137
106 136 167 208 38 132

The Second Key:
You can Count on Slating your trip back home only after you have Concrete assurance that you got
all you need here.
(Gangatamer's tweet makes me think it has something to do with a concrete and slate walkway.)

The Lock:
88 54 27 192 153 13 128 10 226 224 100 97 89 1 229 212 32 . 124 17 121 218

Anyway, good luck tomorrow!

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#806 2010-09-24 8:50 AM

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We're here. Middle of nowhere. Taking photos. Rappahannock Industrial Academy 1902-1948

Each sidewalk slab has a piece of slate embedded in it. Forty pieces of slate in eighteen concrete slabs.
Will transcribe the plaque when I upload pics.

E:
Alright. Now I'm on an actual computer and not my phone. As I said, there are 18 concrete slabs making up the walkway with one massive slab for the plaque for a total of 19. Each slab had pieces of slate embedded in them with 30 pieces in the walkway and 10 in the plaque-slab, making 40 total.

I'm at Panera right now, so the internet connection is acting sluggish, but I'm uploading the photos. In the meantime, the transcription of the plaque:

1902 - Rappahannock Industrial Academy - 1948
Founded by
Southside Rappahannock Baptist Association
Education - The hope of a glorious future
Original Trustees
Willis Brooks - Ned Fitzgerald - C. H. Newman
D. R. Page - Thomas Pollard - J. R. Ruffin
N. A. Wiggins
W. E. Robinson - principal - 1904-1933

E2:
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#807 2010-09-24 2:39 PM

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tomatogoatee wrote:

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That baptist association seems to tie in with that church I told you about. Sorry I really can't tell you more.


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#808 2010-09-24 4:23 PM

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tomatogoatee wrote:

+ Show Spoiler  +

I wonder... did they say the gangadiddle was intact? perhaps that is it


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#809 2010-09-24 4:53 PM

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So I've been playing with this for a bit, trying to figure out what the 'combination' is. Using the text from the plaque, I haven't made much headway... Here's the text, sans spaces, dashes, and numbers split into lines of 10 characters:
+ Show Spoiler  +


As you can see, there's only 214 letters. According to the 'combination,' there should be at least 225. Going by that, here's the same text with no spaces or dashes (letters and numbers only):
+ Show Spoiler  +

That gives us 230 characters (more than the 225 called for in 'combination'). This, however, doesn't make any sense when converted into text using the normal method.
+ Show Spoiler  +

I thought the number of slate pieces might have some use here, but adding 40 to each number wouldn't work (no letter 265) nor would subtracting 40 (no letter -39). As a result, I have a feeling the slate number is just going to be called for in the decoded 'combination' for use in the 'lock'.

E:
Gecko: I don't think the G is broken. The G should be in one piece, wherever it is. AricLatios has an idea where it might be, but we haven't been able to narrow down the spot. (Been looking on google maps, trying to find the church/house/whatever featured in one of the early videos.

E2:
AricLatios has a theory that the G might be located at this location:
+ Show Spoiler  +
and that location might be near this building:
+ Show Spoiler  +
If anyone can locate either on Google maps, I'll make a trip out there and check it out. (I tried tooling around with street view, but I'll admit, I didn't look for it very hard because the internet connection here is kinda crappy.) It may be located in or near Claremont, VA.
(Aric, if you want me to pull this down, I will.)

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#810 2010-09-24 5:36 PM

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so you guys actually travel to places to figure out the next clue?
interesting.
ignore cc1138, he wants to be a super mod too.
you guys don't bother me at all.

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#811 2010-09-24 7:51 PM

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I noticed something. I don't know if it means anything or if it's just a coinkydink, but there are the same number of numbers per line in the combination as there are words per line on the text... that is, if you count initials as words, which okay now I'm not sure about, but here it is anyway. Maybe each word is assigned to a number somehow? I dunno. Probably nothing anyway. :-/ Anyway, here's what I've got:

79 1 28 83 144
1902 - Rappahannock Industrial Academy - 1948

72 43
Founded by

63 45 148 197
Southside Rappahannock Baptist Association

108 98 101 178 57 217 161
Education - The hope of a glorious future

90 13
Original Trustees

21 155 175 187 105 124 125
Willis Brooks - Ned Fitzgerald - C. H. Newman

27 107 59 118 180 131 117 225
D. R. Page - Thomas Pollard - J. R. Ruffin

42 58 137
N. A. Wiggins

106 136 167 208 38 132
W. E. Robinson - principal - 1904-1933

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#812 2010-09-24 8:15 PM

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Wow, wulf! Great find! There's no way that's a coincidence. I'm trying to figure out what exactly the relation is between the words and numbers. And where, exactly, the slate count fits in...

E:
Alright! Got it figured out! Kinda crazypants, but stick with me and I'll try to explain.

Using what Wulf discovered, and operating under the assumption that the ". 124 17 121 218" part of the 'lock' was .html, my wife and I tried to figure out how to get those letters using those numbers. 124 was already linked to an H, but none of the other letters seemed to match up to anything... Until we used each number as a starting point on the corresponding word. Many of the numbers in the 'combination' were close, but didn't match numbers in the 'lock'. So we just found the number that was closest to a given number but less than and counted up to the 'lock' number.

Example: lock number 224
The number closest to and less than 224 in the combination is 217 which links to the word 'glorious'. Using our theory, we assigned 217 to G, 218 to L, and so on until we got 224, which is S.

Using this, we discovered the 'lock' is 'modestmouselyrics.html.' This is doubly funny because my wife wasn't terribly interested in this puzzle until we started decoding the letters and got 'modest,' at which point she said, "Modest mouse?" (She's quite the Modest Mouse fan, let me tell you!) Naturally, she got interested at this point. :)

The answer to the lyric request on the above page is 'laughharditsalongwaytothe.rar' (from the song 'Paper Thin Walls' on 'The Moon and Antarctica' album) and it contains two files; 7clue.txt and The Key.jpg. The password, I'm not sure. I thought it was the number of slate slabs in the concrete at the site (30 in the walkway, 10 in the plaque-slab), but I tried:
10
18
30
40
ten
thirty
forty

When I try "eighteen" under Windows, 7zip crashes, but it appears to be trying to extract the files. If anyone could try that for me and let me know if it works, I would be very appreciative. I think I'm about done with this for tonight. I'll check here tomorrow and see if anyone cracked the file open and go from there. Goodnight, all!

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#813 2010-09-24 9:38 PM

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Haha, you beat me to it. I was just matching up the "lock" numbers.
E: Okay this is a stupid question but if you haven't gone to sleep yet could you tell me how you downloaded the file? The link on the page doesn't work for me.

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#814 2010-09-24 10:03 PM

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Hey, storme. Yeah, I don't know what the deal is, but while the link I posted works as a page, the 'change url' button links to the wrong page. The correct address for the download is http://dolst.9k.com/gangadiddle/LaughHa … yToThe.rar.

I also wanted to mention that I also tried:
3222211221211211211
2222211221211211211
322221122121121121110
222221122121121121110

as passwords. (Those being the number of slate pieces in each concrete slab. The first slab has three pieces, but one is kinda small and off to the side, so it might not count. The 10 at the end being the plaque-slab.)

E:
Oh, and I downloaded a different rar program and tried eighteen as the password and it didn't work. Weird how it would look like it was trying to work with 7zip...

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#815 2010-09-24 11:29 PM

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Oh wow! I actually had a good idea?! Glad I could help somewhat. Also glad you found a hook for your wife. :-)

Also, for those having trouble with the link, try this:

http://dolst.9k.com/gangadiddle/modestmouselyrics.html

Your link had a / on the end, and that made it try to tack the rar file onto the end of the filename which will give you a 404. Try my link (unless something weird happens in posting it that adds that trailing slash. I hope not!)
Anyway, I'm off to attempt a code crackin'. :-)

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#816 2010-09-25 12:00 AM

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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

paperwulf wrote:

Oh wow! I actually had a good idea?! Glad I could help somewhat. Also glad you found a hook for your wife. :-)

Also, for those having trouble with the link, try this:

http://dolst.9k.com/gangadiddle/modestmouselyrics.html

Your link had a / on the end, and that made it try to tack the rar file onto the end of the filename which will give you a 404. Try my link (unless something weird happens in posting it that adds that trailing slash. I hope not!)
Anyway, I'm off to attempt a code crackin'. :-)

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#817 2010-09-25 8:21 AM

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Hey tg, I just had a thought. What order are you counting the slabs? I was wondering if maybe:

You can Count on Slating your trip back home

might have some significance such as far as the "trip back home" part. Maybe count the slabs from the monument first, and then back to where you started? And, no I just tried that and got nothing. I tried your strings of numbers, just backwards. Is it possible you miscounted? Either that or we're missing something obvious. :-/

E: Hey, how many concrete slabs are there again? You've got 21 pictures, but 19 or 20 numbers depending on whether you count the last one with 10. Also, do you have a picture of the 10 spot? I'm sorry, maybe I'm just not awake yet, but I'm having a hard time following the slabs and slate pieces and stuff.

E2: Also, I'm googling anything I can about Rappahannock Industrial Academy, but nothing looks useful so far.

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#818 2010-09-25 8:59 AM

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paperwulf wrote:

Is it possible you miscounted?

Don't say that... Please, don't say that. I don't need doubt in my mind right now...

I posted the pics of the sidewalk in order from monument to car (so naturally, photobucket has them listed in REVERSE order). I'm positive the number sequence from car to monument is 3222211221211211211 (10 at the end for the monument). That's 30 pieces in the walkway, 10 at the end. Reverse order would be (10) 1121121121221122223. The first slab (by the car) has 3 pieces in it, but one is kinda small and off to the side, so it might have been missed. I tried replacing that 3 with a 2 both ways and neither worked...

I'll be checking my email today, so if anyone makes any headway, I'll know.

E:
There were 18 slabs in the walkway with one huge one for the monument.

E2:
If absolutely necessary, I might be able to squeeze a second trip to the monument, but the slabs had between 1 and 2 pieces in them (save the first which had 3). You can try combinations of 1 and 2 as the password. 18 characters.

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#819 2010-09-25 12:50 PM

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I found that the laughhard thing was replaced with this IP address [71.55.149.227]


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#820 2010-09-25 6:27 PM

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Hey tg,

Your numbers are puzzling me. You said it was 18 slabs, but your passwords have 19 or 20 digits. (I'm counting the "10" as a single "digit")


3222211221211211211
2222211221211211211
322221122121121121110
222221122121121121110

I have an idea: I'm going to look for a rar file password cracker that will do brute force but limited to only certain digits. Either that, or just numbers, which shouldn't take too long.

E: I'm going to try this one: http://www.crark.net/ I just hope it isn't riddled with spyware and trojans! lol Normally I wouldn't bother, but since we're operating under the assumption that it's only numbers, maybe it will go fairly quickly. ::crosses fingers::

E2: Okay, I've got crark cracking with a digits-only definition, min length of 18, max length of 21. I don't know if this will take minutes or all night as I've never cracked a rar password before!
tg, we can hope you don't have to go back. I'd hate for you to waste a trip. I'm hoping your next trip will be to the next location in the Hunt! :-)

E3: 42000 passwords tried after 16 minutes..... If I could just limit it to only 3s, 2s, 1s, and 0s..... Should only take about a few hundred years at my current rate. :-/

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#821 2010-09-25 6:39 PM

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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

Holy crap this thread got sticky.

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#822 2010-09-25 7:49 PM

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My bad. Went back to site and re counted tiles. Original numbers wrong. Will post correction soon. Rar is open.

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#823 2010-09-25 7:58 PM

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Oh cool! What's the password!
Actually, I'm gonna try to brute force this with selective character sets, since I wanna see if I can do it. :-)

E: Haha! I found out how to make it only check passwords containing 0s, 1s, 2s, and 3s. A little regexp knowledge helps with the config file. Now we wait. hehehe

E2: WHOAH! We rate a sticky?! Thanks mods!!

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#824 2010-09-25 8:27 PM

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I'm back at the hotel now.

So the wife and I decided to go back out there tonight because wulf made me doubt myself. It was a good thing he did. Standing with my wife in the dark in this field, we discovered I had miscounted one of the walkway slabs and the plaque slab.

The correct password is:
9112112221221122223
(The tile count from the main slab back to the car.)

The rar contains 7clue.txt and TheKey.jpg. We leave tomorrow morning. We're going to try to decode this tonight because we think the location in 7clue might be on our way home.

7clue.txt wrote:

+ Show Spoiler  +

E:
Here's the headway we've made on the info from the rar:
+ Show Spoiler  +

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#825 2010-09-25 11:05 PM

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tomatogoatee wrote:

+ Show Spoiler  +

wait, wait, have you tried the words after Historical mindful and that? perhaps they make an anagram or they are the actual key when spliced right


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