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#826 2010-09-26 11:09 AM

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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

Wow tg, thanks for making the trip! So I guess you're on your way back home now. Can/did you stop by Colonial Heights or Buckroe?
So we've got at least 2 more locations before we find it then eh?
Again, thanks for driving all the way up there. You go in the hall of Legendary Hunters. :-)

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#827 2010-09-26 11:13 AM

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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

Heyo, this is the wife here. Tomatogoatee is playing chauffeur on our way home, so I am posting for him. Ain't love grand?

We went to Violet Bank early this morning as we were heading out.
We're pretty sure that

A Historical occasion was Marked.

refers to the historical marker right as you arrive at the site. It's a long one, so here's a photo: http://yfrog.com/f3p9260166j

We're almost 100% sure that

Be mindful of what Flagged them as heroes.

refers to the plaque at the base of the flagpole. We weren't able to upload any other photos because his phone and my laptop stopped getting along. It's a short one, though, and I've transcribed it word for word, as seen on the plaque:

Dedicated to
the honor of those
who have served
to preserve the
freedom of our flag

Colonial Heights
American Legion Post No. 284

We're nearly sure that

See that there are No Signs of decay, and be mindful of any remaining Plaque.

refers to the plaque near the cucumber tree. There is a large sign near the tree itself about how it's the 2nd largest specimen in the world, but since there are the hints of "No Signs" and "Plaque", we're guessing we should be using the plaque. Plus, the letter count in the sign isn't high enough for the code to work. The plaque appears as follows:

Magnolia Acuminata

Commonly called
"Cucumber Tree"

One legend says that Thomas Shore,
the owner of Violet Bank, planted
this tree from a slip given to him
by Thomas Jefferson.

General Robert E. Lee was camped
here on the morning of July 30, 1864
and heard the explosion of the crater.

We've (I've, actually. One half of the team is driving.) tried using our theory to crack at least the very end of the lock, just to see if it's going anywhere. We got "htm", so we believe we're on the right track. The second and third signs work out using the code, but for the life of me I can't get the first sign to make any sense. I'm just getting nonsense (also a 404) when I plug the letters in. (using all the numbers from the sign text I got "noseiterseeri.htm", using no numbers I get "nosnitetseet.htm".) By the by, using only the second and third signs, the lock is "nos-ite-see--.-tm", with the - in place of a letter from the first sign ('A' letters) that give me so much grief.

So we're at a dead end for now. Plus, my eyes are rather googly from staring at the screen. Good luck!

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#828 2010-09-26 12:30 PM

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wait! within shouting distance of the cucumber tree there was another marker! its a shame I cant head there, itd be a 48 hour trip and I'd probably step right over something important.

also: I think those dashes and dots might be morse code. if I am correct then the lock should be nos-ite-seeytm
(no-site-see.htm?)


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#829 2010-09-26 1:48 PM

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We saw and photographed all plaques/signs in the area. The three we decided upon made the most sense with the riddles given.
Also, please read my post carefully. I explain that I added the dashes in place of letters from the first sign that I was having difficulty with. I included it simply to show what I had gotten.
We will post pictures of all plaques/signs when we get home. Still have 5 hours to go before that, tho
-the wife

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#830 2010-09-26 5:54 PM

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sorry man,  (or ma'am) that just popped into my head when I saw those dashes and the dot, which my brain converted into a Y.
ill have to try to figure it out too, but Ill probably just mess it up.


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#831 2010-09-26 8:14 PM

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Wow, this is gonzo! I'm so psyched to see the Hunt back in swing again. Unfortunately, I guess there'll be another lull until another Hunter can make a trip out. Gah, if I still lived there I prolly would've found the stupid thing by now! LOL

Hey, I have an idea: Just to make sure words and letters and stuff get counted right, you can like take all the text, remove spaces and stuff and make one column of letters (and given the previous clues, I'd say strip spaces and punctuation) and then import that into excel and have it automatically number the letters. I'll try that later on, but right now I'm dead tired and must hit the hay myself. Have a safe trip home!

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#832 2010-09-27 9:47 AM

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I'm happy to see it moving again. However I have to agree with you, wulf, that it looks like it'll be slowing to a crawl again now that I'm not in the state...  (I really wish I had counted those damn slate pieces right the first time so we might have had a chance to go to Buckroe...)

So here's the photos from Violet Bank...

This is the historic marker (also found on HMDB):
+ Show Spoiler  +


This is the plaque at the base of the flagpole (not on HMDB):
+ Show Spoiler  +

This is the huge sign giving the details of Violet Bank (also found on HMDB):
+ Show Spoiler  +

This is the plaque about the tree next to the above sign (also found on HMDB):
+ Show Spoiler  +

This is the sign posted in front of the tree (not on HMDB):
+ Show Spoiler  +

This is a sign that was on the back of the building mentioning the hours of operation (I believe it's irrelevant, but we took a picture anyway):
+ Show Spoiler  +
"E.B. White was not here" is the hint. He wrote Charlotte's Web. Trying to come up with connections...

I'm going to try you're trick, wulf, of transcribing the text into a spreadsheet to get a proper letter count. (Your ideas have worked in the past.)

Also, I wanted to mention that the s33k3rs have made a couple tweets:

s33k3rs wrote:

We are pleased with the results of your futile chase. Our navicaster is very focused now. His is a name none will divine.

Piss-off, wankers. I screwed up, but I fixed it. Don't get cocky...

s33k3rs wrote:

So you know of two more locations. Our navicaster follows the stream. You follow clues. We will reach the Gangadiddle before you do.

So we need to keep a watch for anything that might lead to this navicaster's name. And we still need to find a way to restore David.

Aside from that, I noticed Sunday that s33k3rs have changed their twitter icon to what appears to be an egg... Can anyone confirm if this is now twitter's default icon (which s33k3rs had been using prior to Sunday) or if this might be some kind of omen (or clue to the identity of the navicaster).

E:
I did what wulf suggested and typed out the plaques, replaced everything that wasn't a letter or number ([^a-zA-Z0-9]) with nothing and put every letter on it's own, numbered line. (I wish there were a regular expression that would have done that last part for me. Stupid PSPad/Gedit/OpenOffice regex engines not understanding "Replace each letter with the same letter followed by a \n". I would have been better off writing a PHP script...) This time, I decoded it to:
nossidershero.htm
That is still a 404 page, but it's starting to LOOK correct. "nos siders hero" doesn't make much sense, however. I'll see if I can find anything else.

Usually the 'Key' is the password to the RAR file. Could the 'Key' this time be the location of the RAR? If so, then we're really dead in the water.

E2:
I tried the 'A' code using the text from the huge plaque (sans title) because 12 was an H and I thought it might work:
nosuidessheyo.htm
It makes less sense than the above decoding. Still brainstorming.

E3:
I retyped the text from the large sign myself (I used the text transcribed from HMDB for the above test) and came up with a slightly different result:
nostidessheya.htm
Again, no sense and doesn't work...

E4:
I've been meaning to ask something. Does dolst work for the Virginia Tourism Board or something? Violet Bank is buried in the middle of a residential area. There's no way in Hell anyone will find it unless they're looking for it. I almost drove past it, thinking it was just another house until I saw the flagpole and sign out front.

E5:
FINALLY. After re-transcribing the plaques SEVERAL times, I managed to decode it.
nospidershere.htm
"E.B. White was not here" is the hint. As you may (or may not) know, he wrote Charlotte's Web, so I tried that for the rar and BAM!
CharlottesWeb.rar

E6:
Likely my final edit to this post. I just wanted to mention that, while I can't OPEN the RAR without the key, the contents are:

9clue.txt
bull.rar
camel.rar
rhinoceros.rar
walrus.rar

Oddly enough, we seem to have skipped 8clue... Or, like rule 6, it just doesn't exist.

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#833 2010-09-27 3:14 PM

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Good work tg! You beat me to it. :-) I got my Excel all fired up and ready, and I thought "I oughta check RHQ real quick". LOL. Glad I did.
As far as 8clue, yeah, I guess if there's a Youtube channel involved, we don't get a clue file. I guess the Youtube channel is the clue file.
So now we need someone to go to Buckroe.

Heeelllloooooooooo! Anyone want to hit the beach?! LOL

E: OOG for a minute: I get the feeling the PMs (or lone PM as the case may be) may have decided to kill off DY. Also, we haven't seen a Hoodie vid in a while. More evidence that maybe dolst is running the show. Couple that with his voice in the beachwalka videos.

E2: Hey, did you catch the info on the channel?

Joined: May 14, 2009
Last Visit Date: 6 months ago
Subscribers: 0
When I started out in the east I had only a memory of Kristie, so I decided to be a knight. I moved twice and wound up in pork! After two more moves, I wound up with a Honda. I tried my hand at being a bishop and moved twenty five times until I found a place that was not filled with the usual darkness and destruction I was so tired of.
But before long, the local card sharks caught on that I was a rook, so I moved twice more and wound up with some silver! Once again, my calling as a knight reasserted itself, so I moved once more and let me tell you: you want the numbers I'm looking at now!

First off, I still shake my head at the join dates for this and Krap T. If the Gangadiddle landed in March, and the Hunt is the result of Hoodie binding it, then how was this stuff made almost a year before? OH! OH! I GET IT!!!
Space and time and magic and stuff. See http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M … hlebotinum for how this works. ;-)

But forget about all that. How about the channel description? Looks like another one of his stories that probably means something. I'd wonder if it's s33k3r-related, but his last visit was 6 mos ago, so, it's probably the equivilant of 8clue.

Just my $0.02.

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#834 2010-09-27 4:02 PM

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well, I'm trying to crack the password, those animal names have to mean something!


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#835 2010-09-27 4:17 PM

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Wow. I never looked at the channel description. (I need to pay more attention to the Youtube links. Seriously.)

I did notice that the videos were posted a year ago, but I didn't think much about it at the time. (OOG: I was thinking dolst had just prepared all this stuff a long time ago and we're just now getting around to finding them. Hooray for us being slow!)

Judging by that text, chess has a lot to do with the key to charlottesweb, especially the part about "...you want the numbers I'm looking at now!" Seems pretty straight-forward. Whoever can be on-site needs to look for a stone dedicated to a 'Kristie' and move like the various chess pieces mentioned until you end up looking at the numbers he's referring to.

Who is "Krap T."? I don't see anything about that on the channel info.

Gecko:
Are you trying to brute-force the password? I was thinking about setting up my rig to start doing that, but even still, it'll likely be months before the password is found. (Which might be sooner than someone getting out to the beach.) Heck, if the password is just numbers, but happens to be as long as that 6clue password, it could take a year or better. (Also, I don't think the animal names will have any bearing on the password for charlottesweb.rar. They'll come into play once we get the file open.)

Hey, Paladin! Any chance of you coming out of retirement? ;)

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#836 2010-09-27 4:30 PM

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That story...
The Chess characters. I'm thinking they're trying to say in what directions you need to move, like a cryptic pirate map. (3 paces left, 1 up etc etc)
Also, I will be running a cracker on all files. Wish me luck.

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#837 2010-09-27 7:05 PM

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Who is "Krap T."? I don't see anything about that on the channel info.

Krap T Nom Yam was an earlier channel.

youtube.com/kraptnomyam

He's the letter T. And he's made out of krap. And he noms on yams. Pleasant.
But it spelled "Maymont Park" when you turned it around. That was my time to shine. I remember those early days of the hunt, when I went to Maymont park and collected numbers off of park bench plaques and stone monuments. hehe
That park was in walking distance of my place, and I went there just before I left for MN. If my partner hadn't wanted/needed to get out of VA.... but that's a whole nother story. :-P

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#838 2010-09-27 7:28 PM

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Heh, the wife and I went to Maymont Park Saturday after we went to the Rappahannock site (and got the wrong slate count). She loved the Japanese garden (which would probably look nicer if VA wasn't in the middle of a horrible drought) and we toured the mansion. Again, I have to ask if dolst works for the tourism board... Maymont park wasn't in any of the 'recommended places' in the hotel guide.

E:
Just thought I'd mention that I started my rig on brute-forcing charlottesweb. I'm operating under the assumption the password is only numbers (given the text from b3achwalka's channel), but even a 10-digit number will take a few days to brute-force. (I started a couple hours ago and I'm only up to 7 000 000). I set the upward limit for 20 digits and, to be frank, it'll never get that far. (Right now, it's running at about 1300 passwords a second which would still take a few million years to burn through.) Realistically, unless the number is less than 3 000 000 000 (which would be 30 days @ 1300/sec), I'm going to abandon this avenue.

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#839 2010-09-27 9:40 PM

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damn, I forgot how long it takes for those things to work!

at the rate you say, it would take more than 12 EONS to crack the password (assuming it is a mixture)

also, I love how you told the s33k3rs the name casually and they just flipped out (and I quote: "YOU MONSTERS! YOU ARE WHAT Is WRONG WITH HUMANITY! THIS IS BUT A MINOR SETBACK TO US!")


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#840 2010-09-28 11:15 AM

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Gecko363 wrote:

...I love how you told the s33k3rs the name casually and they just flipped out...

Heh, yeah. I love the nonchalant approach. "Oh, by the way, (hammer to face)"

I told the wife about my brute force attempt on the password and we got into this debate about the ethics of it. (Why play the game if you're just going to cheat? Isn't the point to GO there and find the clues?) So, as a result, I'm abandoning my cracking attempts. (I had only gotten to about 07000000 anyhow.) I have, however, been searching photobucket/imageshack/flickr/deviantart trying to find photos of the area to piece together some kind of map. I don't frequent Facebook or the like, but isn't there a way to search those as well?

Maybe we should make a post on /x/ to see if anyone can get out there...

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#841 2010-09-28 12:12 PM

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My experience with posting Hunt-related materials on /x/ is that they are met with derision and scorn.
So yeah, let's go ahead and do it! ;-)

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#842 2010-09-28 12:27 PM

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If you do, let me know how it works out. I'm at work right now and, for some reason, 4chan is blocked. <sarcasm>I wonder why.</sarcasm>

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#843 2010-09-28 3:22 PM

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gotcha, I've tried a few, and here are my failed attempts:

mammal (based on the animals and what they have in common)
ttavel (since one of the clues said ttavelisnecessary, though that may be a mistake by the Hunt Master)
ocean (no fish)
air (no birds)
Gangadiddle (obvious reason)
E.B.White (Charlotte's Web)


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#844 2010-09-28 4:40 PM

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Gecko:
Just a helpful hint if you're going to make any more attempts at that password; use only lower-case letters and numbers. That's pretty much the case with everything in the Hunt involving passwords or urls. That'll save you the headache of stumbling across the correct password, but finding out it was 'wrong' only because you capitalized the first letter.

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#845 2010-09-29 4:31 PM

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cool, I tried a bunch, but none of them work, don't use obvious ones. I do believe I've covered that.
Will I still get my name in the credits for being an example of what NOT to do with the password?


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#846 2010-09-30 8:10 AM

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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

Wait what, since when was this thread stickied? Neat.
But I guess that's just due, seeing as it's at page 34 already.

And then I get the first post on page 35. huh.

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#847 2010-09-30 3:23 PM

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Soraryuu wrote:

Wait what, since when was this thread stickied? Neat.
But I guess that's just due, seeing as it's at page 34 already.

And then I get the first post on page 35. huh.

you HAVE to be kidding me. Please, dont post thoughts about the whole sticky thing, let the Hunters do their work. Silencio


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#848 2010-10-01 4:53 AM

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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

Here are the notes I took from b3achwalka's description:

-memory of Kristie
1. Start going east
2. 2 knight moves to pork
3. 2 knight moves to Honda
4. 25 bishop moves to a place not filled with darkness and destruction
    -card sharks
5. 2 rook moves to silver
6. 1 knight move to numbers

Clearly each place is denoted by something found there, like a Honda dealership or some kind of butcher (or Honey Baked Ham or something along those lines). I don't know what the "memory of Kristie" means, and number 4 is quite odd.

But he makes it quite clear that we are trying to get to the place at number 6, because that has the numbers we are looking for.

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#849 2010-10-01 8:58 AM

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Eebster wrote:

Clearly each place is denoted by something found there, like a Honda dealership or some kind of butcher (or Honey Baked Ham or something along those lines). I don't know what the "memory of Kristie" means, and number 4 is quite odd.

While a grand scale excursion around town would be fun and interesting, I think we need to keep it a smaller scale. dolst's description of the 'chessboard' makes me think there's a commemorative / engraved brick sidewalk or patio or something at Buckroe. 'Memory of Kristie' would likely mean to start at a brick with a 'In memory of Kristie' engraved in it (probably on the east side of the 'board'). You then move about the bricks like the chess pieces described. Since 'pork' isn't capitalized, I'd imagine you look for a brick with some pork theme ('Donation by Honey Baked Ham,' 'John and Debbie Porker,' etc.). "...wound up with a Honda" would be the same thing, look for a brick with a Honda theme (A dealership, name, or maybe even a 'civic center.' I like to try to think of puns with uncapitalized words.).

dolst wrote:

I tried my hand at being a bishop and moved twenty five times until I found a place that was not filled with the usual darkness and destruction I was so tired of.

Yeah, this one is a bit confusing. Either you move as a bishop 25 times (way too many permutations to be considered) or you move in one direction 25 places (more likely). The 'darkness and destruction' bit sounds to me like part of the sidewalk might be damaged or somehow blocked from light, but since I don't know what the area looks like, that clue kinda leaves me guessing. The 'card shark' clue is equally confusing, but there might be a brick or sign for some poker club or other gambling sign. (There's plenty of ads around Jacksonville for our local "Poker Room.")

The 'silver' clue would be treated the same as 'pork' and 'Honda'. The 'numbers' hint may or may not be a tile. Of course, it could be anything from dates to number of casualties at some battle to the park's hours of operation.

Another thing, dolst mentioned in the video that the octagons and squares had an agreement where the '...squares weren't squares and the octagons had to act like squares.' (Or something to that effect.) I was looking up tessellations (Woo-hoo! I finally get to use that word!) of squares and octagons and I believe the sidewalk / patio area will look similar to this:
http://www.tinaandjoel.com/uploaded_images/octagon_tile_closeup-760954.jpg
The octagonal bricks will have the messages engraved in them and you only count those bricks when moving around the 'board.'

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#850 2010-10-01 6:30 PM

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Re: Poochee and Pansy (THE TRUTH) (a.r.g.)

Darn, looks like I missed quite a bit. Sorry for not ever meeting up with you TG, or even responding for that matter. Death in the family way up in Illinois, and I've been short an internet connection.

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